Received: from mtd.com (mtd-com [199.34.33.66]) by sadie.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA03355 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:55:07 -0400 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com (mail06.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.108]) by mtd.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA17790 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:55:06 -0400 Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA03962 for eats@peta.org; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:54:33 -0400 Message-ID: <960407215430_371053242@mail06> From: Soize@aol.com To: eats@peta.org Subject: Hello Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:54:33 -0400 I'd like to start off by saying that I have a phd in ecology, I am a graduate of the University of Florida, and practice environmental law in Cali. Eating animals is not inherently wrong. Killing out of need, to survive, as humans have done for approx. 40,000 years, by being an active participant in the predator-prey relationship is not sick, perverted or disgusting. What IS, is killing to satisfy a taste for meat, or to satisfy "nutritional requirments" which are based on false information. To honor our hunt-instincts would be fine, if what we hunted weren't already given two strikes against them by polluting and destroying their homes (habitat). The facts are facts, not interpretations of data: eating meat is detrimental to human health, period. You want to deny it, cool by me, you'll be gone quicker. Another Critical Point: Undeniably, the livestock industry is the WORST human activity for the environment, second is the burning of fossil fuels. You want numbers? Proof? Just ask, no problem. My info comes from USDA, EPA, and the Fish and Wildlife Service, not, as you might put it, "nazi animal rights activists". Don't particularly care about the environment? Don't bitch when you can't drink your tap water, swim in ANY lake or river (presently 64% or them in the U.S. are deemed unsuitable for fishing or swimming). Would you really believe that we can continue to 'crap in our own cages', and not have our health suffer. What the animal rights activist (those who are truely thinking individuals) is concerned with, is that the greediness of some humans will detrimentally effect the health of EVERYONE ELSE including the non-human animals. Beef is inefficient, at best 10% of the digestible nutrients become tissue. That means that we waste 90% of the grain fed to them, to satisfy a taste, when millions of people starve. How much can you honestly say YOU know about: topsoil depletion? water subsidies for beef? antibiotics, hormones, pesticides, and other additives found in beef (still in milk and tissue when you eat it, which DO effect your health)? deforestation? slaughterhouses? factory farms? fur ranches? eutrophication? I could go on and on.... I'd bet that that you don't know much, otherwise you would not be as in the dark as you truely are. You do have the right to eat meat, wear fur, etc. in this country, and you can say whatever you want, being ignorant is easy, I used to be. Did you know that you have been lied to by the Beef and Dairy Council and McDonalds? They fabricated the "four food groups" and the "food pyramid". It is nutritionally unsound, as millions of inpatients will surely attest to, as well as young nutritionists who have had an unbiased education will as well. LOOK UP DR. MICHEAL KLAPER, he is a Vegan doctor who abandoned the surgery room, and has taken up educating people about real nutrition. To ridicule us, to mock us, is to avoid LEARNING THE TRUTH. Oh, by the way, nature designed deer to be controlled by disease and predation by wolves and big cats. We would not need to "cull the overpopulated deer", if their natural predators were around to do the job. All I ask of you is this: If you must espouse your, I believe I'll leave out the adjective, opinion, please recheck your opinion and make sure you know what you are talking about. And maybe one more thing: cut down on the greed, it ain't attractive. E-MAIL ME AT: bblock@atlantic.net, not this Aol address, this is my mother's address. One last thing, if you think the human is the only reasoning creature on this Earth, then you really are more ignorant than I thought. Get yourself some education before it is too late.